Friday, July 03, 2009

Thanks to "Grumpy Old Dude"

Slow Poetry is not a "school." Nothing will come of it--ever--in the sense that what matters matters. Slow Poetry is far behind the present--far ahead of me. I try to make myself capable of a slow moment--a slow day--dig? People will meet. And eat. And converse freely. And go home. That's my vision.

8 comments:

Sam said...

Slow poetry of a sort in today's Grauniad.

Iain said...

Huh, prior to reading that article, I hadn't realized that the Slow Food movement started in Italy. This makes me suspicious of the possible racist/nationalist roots to their emphasis on so-called "traditional" foods. The Italian Right has this weird (jingoist) idea that the history of Italian food is something other than the history of incorporating a wide variety of foreign foods into their culinary tradition. Everything we think of as "Italian food" was brought there by the Romans from somewhere else.

Rant over.

and sorry, just thinking aloud here, promise I'm not in anyway considering thinking that this translates in some way to Slow Poetry.

Michael Robbins said...

Dale, dude, I think you're describing a barbecue.

Dale said...

Michael, thanks: that does sound like a barbecue. I've been in Texas too long.

Plastic said...

Actually, Italy also has a long history in the roots of Anarchism, which can easily be researched. There are also today strong movements in bike activism, urban farming and "recycling" madness, and if I remember correctly, a long history in the squatters movement. And yes, these "ideas" may become or originate and be taken on in & by bourgeois fashion; but seriously, let them take it on then. It's quite better for the environment and sustainability in general, in many regards, and will open up even more radical thinking when we realize we have to have an everyday politics around Food. (No , not as in expensive Slow Food Festivals--but in the control of Food that is beginning to happen)(Should we think of this in terms of Poetry?) This is why "dialogue" between cultures and generations is really important. Also knowing History is extremely important, and being the ones who write it, make it and live it. I think Dale's vision of Slow Poetry reaches beyond just language, which is why it interests me. But before this issue even officially comes out (from Big Bridge) we'll have moved on, don't you think, to evolved ideas (let's hope). He certainly will, since he's gathering all this great insight, be it critical or not.

Has anyone seen that can of beans?

marina

Iain said...

marina,

thanks for the grounding comment. I'm aware of various anarchist movements in Italy. Some piece of Slow Food literature I had just read had a weird view of "traditional" food, and hearing it came from Italy made me think of the fact that they had just banned foreign foods (which is pretty fucked up).

But you're right, there's no reason there has to be an important connection between Slow Food and any of that nationalist bullshit.

Dale said...

Marina, THANK you for that smart, and thoughtful comment. It truly IS grounding.

Plastic said...

lain-It is pretty fucked up, and I'm with you on that and in fact, it's probably just as important right now to be suspicious...my gripe right now in San Francisco is the building of Solar Condos, EcoUrbanVillages of sorts, that are a great idea BUT only those with money will be able to rent them. This type of stuff is changing the whole landscape (& feel/vibe) of Urban Culture. Actually, you know, it happened awhile ago....So as our environment changes, so do we somehow, so do our expressions, fears, (dare I say) Poetry & Hopes.

marina